Host 1: "You give that script to that director and tell him to make that movie, he may have made that movie to what the script called for."
Host 2: "That may be true, but that's like saying we're going to let...Spike Lee direct Captain America."
Host 1: "Yeah, I don't think that would be right...because The Falcon would be in it a lot."
Host 2: "Why?"
Host 1: "Spike Lee. You know he would. Don't even ask me why."
And having the Falcon in a Spike Lee-directed "Captain America" film would be bad... why?
ReplyDeleteDid they ever actually explain that?
Whereas I think Spike Lee probably wouldn't be the prime choice for "Captain America," I do think he'd make an interesting movie about Cap! Can't see it being anything like a run of the mill comic book adaptation.
But I haven't seen any of Nick Cassevetes' films, so I have no idea if he's a good choice or not. Depends on the script, I think.
I'm always finding myself in the same situation! All "black people & them liking the same things as white people! Blech! & what, they're going to include black characters in it, especially ones that are central to the mythos! Ptyoh!"
ReplyDeleteI think a Spike Lee Cap-pastiche would work better than a script with a studio breathing down your neck. Plus, I'm pretty sure Spike's Cap would make me want to punch myself. He ain't my favorite.
Cap should be so lucky as to have someone as talented as Spike Lee helm his movie.
ReplyDeleteWhat an idiot that host is.
I'd argue that Falcon isn't central to the mythos of a Captain America movie. Really, only Cap, Bucky & the Red Skull are central.
These dudes are the reason I fear for the future. Because Skynet will have to learn from someone, and there are more ignorant yokels online than anyone else.
ReplyDeleteSweet Jeebus...
The mind boggles and reels sometimes at human stupidity.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I think a Spike Lee Cap movie would be awesome. Give him a stack of old Englehart Caps for research, I think he could make a very interesting film.
I don't know if Falcon is central, but I've always liked him as an important part of the mythos. Cap is one of the only guys with a more or less built-in release valve for the hairy questions he raises, in a way that, say, Superman does not. Yeah, I'm sure "truth, justice and the American way" work pretty well for an attractive middle class white dude from Kansas working in the media in a major metropolitan city. Supes' history as a fantasy allegory of immigrant Jews lies mostly untended these days, and no one really ever addresses the sham promise of perfect egalitarianism that Superman represents. (I'm not saying someone SHOULD, just that that's what the character, for better or worse, is.)
ReplyDeleteAlso I don't think it's particularly racist thought to speculate about how Lee might skew the racial sympathies of the viewer, particularly if you've ever had the opportunity to compare his source materials with the movies he's made out of them (e.g. Clockers).
Although personally, I think a more fruitful vein for that type of Cap commentary is Isaiah Bradley, with shades of the Tuskeegee Experiment.
ReplyDeleteI dunno, I think there's a shade of reverse racism going on in this comment section. Spike Lee's movies have shown a tendency to be *very* anti "The Man," and who epitomizes "The Man" more than Captain America? I think it's fair to expect a Spike Lee Captain America movie would focus on The Falcon as being the counter-point to the anti-villain depiction of Captain America. I think the hosts have a right to call bullshit on the idea of Spike Lee directing a good version of Captain America. White people are allowed to criticize black people, you know. It's not automatically racism just because of the ethnicities.
ReplyDeleteI think that's a *huge* stretch, Kenny.
ReplyDelete"Don't even ask me why" is a pretty clear indicator that Host 1 is already embarrassed by his thinking.
...Spike Lee directing Captain America would be so freaking cool.
ReplyDeleteRemember Inside Man? A fairly (more or less) by the numbers heist flick punching way above its weight and pulling in $100 million+. AND it has a very cool bit of critique of gangster rap culture right in the middle.
And Nick Cassavetes... isn't the the same Cassavetes who did that Justin Timberlake video where he smacks around Scarlet Johannsen for cheating on him(IIRC, feel free to correct me here), then she dies in a car crash? I didn't like it. Way too much style over substance. Also: icky.
...should be "isn't that the Nick Cassavetes... stupid work fingers.
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