I'm for the Hillz. I like Obama, but his conservative stance on gays and running around with ex gay singers and right wing preachers really didn't sit well with me.
I also see him more as a VP than as a President.
McCain, Andy, really?
You'd vote for a homophobic 80 year old flip flopping Bush yes-man?
I'm not going to disguise my feelings. I'm Muslim and Obama's father is a Muslim. That gives me the warm fuzzies inside. So, he can run around with whomever he likes. Plus, I just like the guy and think he'd make a good leader. I have faith he'd listen to people smarter than him on any subject he feels he lacks knowledge and wisdom on.
Also, I'd vote for McCain over Hillary. I don't care what anyone wants to paint me as. I don't trust a word that comes out of Hillary's mouth, and that's my right to feel that way.
Yeah, that was pretty lame (the link) but honestly I don't think that gay marriage and abortion are very important to choosing a president. They're just controversial issues people like to talk about and tend to side track if someone would be a good candidate.
I trust McCain in general, and it might have been a long time ago but staying in a POW camp when he was going to be let out because he demanded every other soldier there before him be released is pretty fucking impressive.
Maybe that guy he was then has been a bit watered down with age and lots of politics but I think he's a pretty solid guy.
That being said I certainly want to hear more about everyone, and really hope Romney doesn't win the GOP.
Being only a resident and not a citizen, I can't vote - but even if I could I don't know who I'd vote for.
On the one hand, I don't trust Hillary too much but on the other hand Obama comes across as insincere and condescending to me. On the Republican side, McCain seems the most moderate of a bad bunch.
The Democrats could nominate one of their loony fringe candidates and beat the Republicans this year. Turnout among the Dems has crushed Repub turnout even in the red states.
I have no problems with Obama, I just think Hillary has more useful experience and flat out don’t believe in Obama’s promises that he can lead the country past partisanship (not that it bothers me that he’s promising it, because he is a professional politician). I also find it amusing that Hillary gets attack by the right (“She’s a filthy, filthy liberal!”) and by the left (“She makes compromises and gets a little bit done instead of being stubborn and getting everything* done!”).
*everything actually being nothing.
Hoping for McCain on the Republican side. It’s a rebuilding year for them, probably a Goldwater or McGovern presidential run. It’ll give use some idea of what the party will be like twenty years from now. McCain, for all that some of his positions are in line with his party, is not a favorite of the conservative leaders, especially the religious ones. Yeah!
I just can't support Clinton, even if she could deliver rainbows and unicorns and was running against one of Hitler's illegitimate argentinian love childs. I'm 31 years old and I've never voted in a presidental ellection where Bush or Clinton wasn't on the ticket.
I think I'm gonna try to go to the Superman Celebration this year. I lived in the Midwest most of my life but never went, but it might be good to go for the 70th anniversary of his debut.
I woulda considered McCain on '00, though I ended up Goring it. I'm an Indie who generally thought the Clinton administration too conservative. Votepaired for Kerry in '04, though my heart was with Cobb.
But these days, as the three major Democratic candidates finally proved willing to speak up for gay rights and as the Republican candidates continually put party loyalty above pragmatism (KOing the big thing that would've attracted me to McCain in 2000)...
... the differences between parties are pronounced enough that I'll actually be proud to vote for Clinton or Obama, leaning toward the latter.
I don't think you should choose a President based solely on abortion or gay issues, but the fact that he is going around saying "vote for me cause I hate fags more" is definitely a reason NOT to choose him.
Not to mention he is 80 years old and whoever he chooses as his VP could likely be our next President.
Or the fact that he has pandered to the religious right trying to prove himself as a "true right winger," as well as being a Bush lapdog for the past couple years.
He can't be believed at all.
So Hillary can't be trusted? Look at her career in the Senate and see all the wonderful things she has done.
Look at Obama's and see that he's basically done nothing but make pretty speeches.
Whoops, there was supposed to be more in that comment than just sarcasm. I was for John Edwards since Obama and Clinton are more or less identical on paper (i.e., they both favor "free" trade, NAFTA, GATT, WTO & other acronyms that are systematically eviscerating the US economy). Hillary is not my favorite, since she is essentially Bill without the charm or the political acumen. I worry that Obama is too naive to be president, what with all his talk of "radical bipartisan change." Change occurs only when one set of partisans can outvote the other set. I'd be afraid that he would be unprepared for the viciousness of the GOP, whereas Hillary has already been "pre-smeared." I mean, what else can they accuse her of? Eating babies? Super Duper Tuesday appears not to have settled anything and that means (God help us all) that Texas may decide the nomination of both parties...
"I don't think you should choose a President based solely on abortion or gay issues, but the fact that he is going around saying "vote for me cause I hate fags more" is definitely a reason NOT to choose him."
Really his ad that you linked just said doesn't support gay marriage. It wasn't that bad.
"Not to mention he is 80 years old and whoever he chooses as his VP could likely be our next President."
If the VC couldn't kill him, what makes you think old can! lol.
"Or the fact that he has pandered to the religious right trying to prove himself as a "true right winger," as well as being a Bush lapdog for the past couple years."
They all pander, the democrats are just lucky that Bush messed up so badly that they don't really have to try too hard other than to beat each other.
He wasn't a lapdog, he just didn't take shots at him. That being said it wasn't a shining moment.
He can't be believed at all.
We'd be foolish to believe any of them 100% They all just tell us what they think we want to hear.
I'm slightly leaning toward Osama.. I mean Obama but I'm registered Independant, thus eliminating me from primaries.
ReplyDeleteI might go McCain in the general election if he makes it, but I'm not sure. Everyone loves the undecided voters right? Bring on the TV commercials.
I'm for the Hillz. I like Obama, but his conservative stance on gays and running around with ex gay singers and right wing preachers really didn't sit well with me.
ReplyDeleteI also see him more as a VP than as a President.
McCain, Andy, really?
You'd vote for a homophobic 80 year old flip flopping Bush yes-man?
McCain's Homophobic RoboCalls
Good girl, Val. I'm on the Obama bandwagon, too.
ReplyDeleteI'm not going to disguise my feelings. I'm Muslim and Obama's father is a Muslim. That gives me the warm fuzzies inside. So, he can run around with whomever he likes. Plus, I just like the guy and think he'd make a good leader. I have faith he'd listen to people smarter than him on any subject he feels he lacks knowledge and wisdom on.
Also, I'd vote for McCain over Hillary. I don't care what anyone wants to paint me as. I don't trust a word that comes out of Hillary's mouth, and that's my right to feel that way.
sammy:
ReplyDeleteYeah, that was pretty lame (the link) but honestly I don't think that gay marriage and abortion are very important to choosing a president. They're just controversial issues people like to talk about and tend to side track if someone would be a good candidate.
I trust McCain in general, and it might have been a long time ago but staying in a POW camp when he was going to be let out because he demanded every other soldier there before him be released is pretty fucking impressive.
Maybe that guy he was then has been a bit watered down with age and lots of politics but I think he's a pretty solid guy.
That being said I certainly want to hear more about everyone, and really hope Romney doesn't win the GOP.
Being only a resident and not a citizen, I can't vote - but even if I could I don't know who I'd vote for.
ReplyDeleteOn the one hand, I don't trust Hillary too much but on the other hand Obama comes across as insincere and condescending to me. On the Republican side, McCain seems the most moderate of a bad bunch.
Maybe Brewster?
I'm still predicting Fred Thompson will arrive on a shiny white horse and just steal all the caucuses - even the Democratic ones.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise I'm tossing my support behind Romney.
The Democrats could nominate one of their loony fringe candidates and beat the Republicans this year. Turnout among the Dems has crushed Repub turnout even in the red states.
ReplyDeleteI have no problems with Obama, I just think Hillary has more useful experience and flat out don’t believe in Obama’s promises that he can lead the country past partisanship (not that it bothers me that he’s promising it, because he is a professional politician). I also find it amusing that Hillary gets attack by the right (“She’s a filthy, filthy liberal!”) and by the left (“She makes compromises and gets a little bit done instead of being stubborn and getting everything* done!”).
*everything actually being nothing.
Hoping for McCain on the Republican side. It’s a rebuilding year for them, probably a Goldwater or McGovern presidential run. It’ll give use some idea of what the party will be like twenty years from now. McCain, for all that some of his positions are in line with his party, is not a favorite of the conservative leaders, especially the religious ones. Yeah!
I just can't support Clinton, even if she could deliver rainbows and unicorns and was running against one of Hitler's illegitimate argentinian love childs. I'm 31 years old and I've never voted in a presidental ellection where Bush or Clinton wasn't on the ticket.
ReplyDeleteWe seem to want Obama to win here in the UK. I think.
ReplyDeleteI posted that pic of Obama in Metropolis too. :)
ReplyDeleteI think I'm gonna try to go to the Superman Celebration this year. I lived in the Midwest most of my life but never went, but it might be good to go for the 70th anniversary of his debut.
I woulda considered McCain on '00, though I ended up Goring it. I'm an Indie who generally thought the Clinton administration too conservative. Votepaired for Kerry in '04, though my heart was with Cobb.
ReplyDeleteBut these days, as the three major Democratic candidates finally proved willing to speak up for gay rights and as the Republican candidates continually put party loyalty above pragmatism (KOing the big thing that would've attracted me to McCain in 2000)...
... the differences between parties are pronounced enough that I'll actually be proud to vote for Clinton or Obama, leaning toward the latter.
@andy:
ReplyDeleteI don't think you should choose a President based solely on abortion or gay issues, but the fact that he is going around saying "vote for me cause I hate fags more" is definitely a reason NOT to choose him.
Not to mention he is 80 years old and whoever he chooses as his VP could likely be our next President.
Or the fact that he has pandered to the religious right trying to prove himself as a "true right winger," as well as being a Bush lapdog for the past couple years.
He can't be believed at all.
So Hillary can't be trusted? Look at her career in the Senate and see all the wonderful things she has done.
Look at Obama's and see that he's basically done nothing but make pretty speeches.
Clearly, Obama is our only hope to beat Lex Luthor.
ReplyDeleteWhoops, there was supposed to be more in that comment than just sarcasm. I was for John Edwards since Obama and Clinton are more or less identical on paper (i.e., they both favor "free" trade, NAFTA, GATT, WTO & other acronyms that are systematically eviscerating the US economy). Hillary is not my favorite, since she is essentially Bill without the charm or the political acumen. I worry that Obama is too naive to be president, what with all his talk of "radical bipartisan change." Change occurs only when one set of partisans can outvote the other set. I'd be afraid that he would be unprepared for the viciousness of the GOP, whereas Hillary has already been "pre-smeared." I mean, what else can they accuse her of? Eating babies? Super Duper Tuesday appears not to have settled anything and that means (God help us all) that Texas may decide the nomination of both parties...
ReplyDeleteYay Texas! Hahaha.
ReplyDeleteI think Hillary can get Texas.
"I don't think you should choose a President based solely on abortion or gay issues, but the fact that he is going around saying "vote for me cause I hate fags more" is definitely a reason NOT to choose him."
ReplyDeleteReally his ad that you linked just said doesn't support gay marriage. It wasn't that bad.
"Not to mention he is 80 years old and whoever he chooses as his VP could likely be our next President."
If the VC couldn't kill him, what makes you think old can! lol.
"Or the fact that he has pandered to the religious right trying to prove himself as a "true right winger," as well as being a Bush lapdog for the past couple years."
They all pander, the democrats are just lucky that Bush messed up so badly that they don't really have to try too hard other than to beat each other.
He wasn't a lapdog, he just didn't take shots at him. That being said it wasn't a shining moment.
He can't be believed at all.
We'd be foolish to believe any of them 100% They all just tell us what they think we want to hear.
He also wants to stay in Iraq forever.
ReplyDelete"Yay Texas! Hahaha."
ReplyDeleteI'm comfortably certain we'll find some way to screw it up. Like maybe picking Ron Paul and Mike Gravel.
"He also wants to stay in Iraq forever."
Not "forever," just 100 years! Geez! Dang libruls!