tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25566450.post1333059702706596318..comments2024-01-14T11:45:23.991-05:00Comments on Occasional Superheroine: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25566450.post-84248527829146287592007-09-01T16:39:00.000-04:002007-09-01T16:39:00.000-04:00I interpreted the story as being part of Ennis' co...I interpreted the story as being part of Ennis' continuing attempt to show that the Punisher is a really unique creature. It isn't just the loss of his family to mob crossfire, or his time in 'Nam, it's all that, plus a lot of other things, and how it all comes together in his mind.<BR/><BR/>I really felt the story was showing, through both Jenny and Detective Budianksy, how people could think they were like the Punisher, but in fact were not. Budiansky can't be, because unlike Castle or Jenny, he still has something to lose, which keeps him from going completely over the line (he can be Punisher-like, but it's when the person is an immediate threat to people, ala the kid he shot in the school, and the drug addict that shot the detective's wife).<BR/><BR/>Jenny doesn't have that, but like the detective, she's still operating on a "vengeance" mindset. She wanted to get back at the people who hurt her, just as Budiansky repeatedly shot a man who shot his wife, and wanted to kill the widows he believed were behind the hit. But Frank Castle, as he points out to Jenny, sees it as a mission. It isn't about getting revenge; it's about stopping innocents from getting hurt. As long as there are criminals, he's got to keep going. For Jenny (or Budiansky if he ever does cross the line), she killed the people she planned to, and had nothing left. I think she recognizes how messed up Frank is, and realized she, unlike him, can't keep going afterwards.<BR/><BR/>Which I think says she's somewhat more well-adjusted than Frank Castle, because the death and brutality does get to her, whereas Frank can just keep going.<BR/><BR/>As to the handcuffs, I think Frank had a surge of adrenaline which let him break the bedframe where the cuffs were attached. As to not stopping her from beating her sister to death with a bat, I think he figured Jenny had earned the right to take her vengeance. As for the sex thing, um, I'm not sure. Maybe to demonstrate that Jenny doesn't have anything else to help her go forward, now that she got revenge?CalvinPitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11815632086057048846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25566450.post-38440945388305895262007-08-29T09:32:00.000-04:002007-08-29T09:32:00.000-04:00"...why didn't [the Punisher] free himself earlier..."...why didn't [the Punisher] free himself earlier and prevent the beating of the woman, or prevent this obviously crazy Jenny person from riding him like prize pony, or prevent Jenny from blowing her brains out?"<BR/><BR/>Because the Punisher is also a crazy fuck.thecomicmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10316035247861985565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25566450.post-86683349580971886772007-08-28T09:58:00.000-04:002007-08-28T09:58:00.000-04:00Yeah-- I pretty much gave up on Garth Ennis as a s...Yeah-- I pretty much gave up on Garth Ennis as a serious writer midway through "Preacher." He bypasses armchair psychology and goes straight to the bar room "variety." Unless it involves period action, Ennis seems to only take the piss out of his subjects or goes transgressive for shock value and assumes that's all he needs. Oh wait, it's 2007. That apparently is all he needs (well, and a writer proxy...)Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25566450.post-28049052580691026122007-08-27T17:32:00.000-04:002007-08-27T17:32:00.000-04:00I don't think the Punisher would really have had a...I don't think the Punisher would really have had a problem with watching a mob widow who tried to kill him get beaten to death, especially by someone she also betrayed. And I'll be generous and offer that he was as stunned by the whole "post-murder sex" thing as the reader (well, me, anyways) was. <BR/><BR/>And I suppose one could argue with the cause/effect order in terms of Jenny. Because her femininity was first betrayed (the rapes/beatings), then removed (her breasts), she transformed into ths more masculine vigilante figure as a means of defense. <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure if I buy all that, or if it would even make it better, but, for the sake of argument, it's a theory - proving once and for all that I think way too hard about a series whose star is essentially a ruthless psychotic killer. <BR/><BR/>But yeah, I felt a litle dirty after reading that issue; much the same as when Frank killed Microchip. Sure, I guess it makes sense, but... ew.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450523740703857720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25566450.post-8816318579577990872007-08-27T04:39:00.000-04:002007-08-27T04:39:00.000-04:00I don't buy it. It's extremism, but it isn't sexis...I don't buy it. It's extremism, but it isn't sexism. It wasn't racism when Ennis introduced Barracuda, a stereotypically black character with a mouth full of gold that said "FUCK YOU." And it wasn't sexism when O'Brien came off as a crazy nympho with a death wish in the first story arc, it was extremism. That's what Ennis' Punisher's always been about.Jack Zodiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14327503665266714602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25566450.post-76983369676531941032007-08-26T22:18:00.000-04:002007-08-26T22:18:00.000-04:00Squickies??Squickies??snellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181997862745538999noreply@blogger.com